Just by looking at y’all it seems like you would watch MTV?

Kisner: Sure.

So did you watch the MTV Video Music Awards last night?

Howard: Yes, we did.

Kisner: Actually, we watched them together.

Honestly, I didn’t see exactly what happened and I had to YouTube.com it this morning, but what is your take on the whole Kanye/Taylor Swift thing?

Kisner: Um, well I know he sucks. (Laughs)

Howard: (Laughs) Yeah, he was just really rude.

But why does he suck though?

Kisner: Because that was just really mean.

But basically, he just got a microphone and got up on stage, said he had his girl Beyoncé’s back and that he thought it was better and then he sat back down. Is it really all that bad?

Howard: Yeah, he stole the microphone from her.

Kisner: Yeah, it was her moment. Not his.

Maybe was it because Kanye was eating a bunch of fish sticks or something? (Pause) Or it looks like y’all missed that episode of South Park.

Howard: Yeah, is that like a metaphor for something?

Yeah, I’m not going to explain all of that one, so that joke got killed. But that’s fine.

Kisner: Well he’s just really cocky and I don’t like that.

I’m not a big fan of him as a human being either. Do you guys think anything should happen to him as a result of his actions?

Howard: I don’t think anything should happen. I mean, he apologized. I know it doesn’t make up for it, but you can’t really fine him for something like that.

You don’t think people should start boycotting him or anything?

Kisner: Um, I don’t know.

Howard: He’s still a good musician.

But it seems like he’s just always doing stuff to get attention?

Howard: He’s cocky. He has a very large ego.

Are you going to support him as a musician anymore?

Howard: Yeah, I like his music.

Kisner: Yeah, I don’t think I’ll stop listening to him, but I don’t like him as a person. I think he’s an asshole.